Let's not have a immediate-full-disclosure debate on bugtraq. There's already an ongoing debate on comp.*.security; anybody who wishes to argue yea or nay should join Dave Hayes, myself, and others who are discussing it on comp.*.security. Regards, John -- John DiMarco jdd@cdf.toronto.edu Computing Disciplines Facility Systems Manager jdd@cdf.utoronto.ca University of Toronto EA201B,(416)978-1928